Sunday, July 29, 2007

Yet again, I've been pulled of homework to post here. (because, as you know, I'm the neutral one)

Recently, as you may or may not have noticed, the authors of this blog were accused and threatened by an anonymous person in a comment. Let us examine it as follows:

(and I quote)

omg. if you hate celeste so much why still open a blog and blog about her. go her blog non stop. and its really funny.. you guys dont know her you cant judge her like this. you say what by her face.. omfg.. you stupid or what. how to judge by a face.. its so obvious you guys are just finding fought with her. and going to her blog everyday? even her new video also you straight upload. ohmy what losers.why not show us your faces :) why still hide behind the com and blog about people. coz you pple are not as daring as her. you pple are just jealous that she dares to do what she likes and you cant. if you dare to blog about her. why not dare to show your faces too. coward dogs. do you actually think celeste give a shiat? more like you are giving her more fame.. making her more like a star.. just think about it. hate her den ignore her.. why still come blog about her non stop and all. more like you are her fucking fan. dont say no.

1) you always visit her blog
2) watch her videos
3) check if anynew updated pics or videos are uploaded
4) open a blog and talk about her

you are wasting your time blogging about her. WHAT JOKES.

you pple dare. show us your faces lah. at least she dare to scold pple and show her faces _|_

losers man. really .. ohmy .
anyway this blog is also reported to the police station already :) and they are searching for the IP address coz this is internet bully btw. :D

GOODLUCK!

July 29, 2007 1:17 PM


(endquote)

Well, first off, definitions for today's debate.

Internet Bullying *aka cyber bullying*: "bullying intends to cause emotional distress and has no legitimate purpose... threats, sexual remarks, pejorative labels (i.e., hate speech). They may attempt to assume the identity of a victim for the purpose of publishing material in their name that defames or ridicules them." (Wikipedia, 2007)

My three main points of contention are: 1) Is this blog a cyber-bullying blog? 2) Is this anonymous person a righteous critic? 3) Does his accusation/ threat stand? [Debaters out there, excuse the poor organisation, I'm new]

On to the first point of contention, whether this blog is in fact bullying Celeste.

We say this is not true, because we have not fulfilled the criteria of cyber bullying. On a most basic level, this blog does not fulfill the criteria for a cyber-bullying blog because it does have a purpose. As mentioned, " we're making a statement about the nature of many similar girls on the internet". As has been proven many times over, blogs can be used as a viable form of expression or critique, citing some examples such as Mr. Brown. This blog holds legitimate views which we to express, without going overboard and doing such drastic things as sending her hate mail, or other forms of 'bullying'.

Even if this blog falls into the catagory of cyber-bullying, we say that there is no viable way of ending such "cyber-bullying" by people of the world, unless governments/ law-enforcement agencies world-wide decide to shut down the internet in its entirety. There are simply too many of such blogs.

Furthermore, if a government can enforce such laws, other opinion/expression-driven bloggers like XiaXue would also have to be taken in. Even the 'anonymous' (and might I say, contradicting) person would have to be taken in, with his choice of commenting on our blog, which brings me to my second point.

Is this person a righteous and honest to goodness critic?

We say no, because a true critic would not sink to such vulgar means as this anonymous commentor has done. True, every person has the right to express to him/her-self, but as the government has constantly reminded us, this must be done responsibly, not through insults, ridicule and threats.

Even if this commentor does have a justified opinion, and the best interests of Celeste at heart, we say that through his vulgar means he has negated his right to expression, because he is doing exactly what he says we are doing. He has remained anonymous "not... show[ing] face", and insulted us collectively, with no evidence, judging us "...by face", and using defamatory and vulgar words like "jokes", "f***" and "coward dogs".

Furthermore, if what he says is true, and his point does stand, we say that he can by right be counter-sued or taken in by the police as well because he has (ironically) done everything, and some (threatening), that he himself has deemed 'internet bullying'. We think that this person does not infact hold a righteous view, or others' best interests at heart, but instead merely wishes to make a fool of himself in public by acting so dishonourably.

To my last point, and in conclusion, whether his threat/accusation stands

We say that it does not for two main reasons. First, as we have proven, because we have not fulfilled the criteria of 'internet bullying'. Second, we think it is unlikely that someone would have so carelessly chosen to do something so rash as to report us, because something like that has a variety of ill-effects, for both parties involved (especially because of his comment).

Even if it stands, we say that the chance of enforcement is reduced, because he (and countless others) has done exactly the same thing; if the police followed every threat, we would be getting robbed everyday because there wouldn't be any left to man the streets. We have also already proven that this blog holds legitimate views, and critiques the real and existing trend of so-called 'bimbo' bloggers.

Furthermore, if push comes to shove, we are prepared to face the consequences, because we know that expression of our opinions in the right way (albeit perhaps being a bit over-critical) is justified, and can be defending in a judicially-strong country like Singapore.

At the end of the day what have I proved to you? First, that this isn't an internet-bully blog in the first place. Next, that the anonymous commentor does not, in fact, have a righteous opinion to voice, and thus ought not hold weight with us. Last, that his threat cannot stand in the eyes of logic.

Thanks for reading (if you did, else you just scrolled to the bottom, hmm?)
ProfG

14 comments:

Anonymous said...

By creating this blog,
you gave celeste more fame?
and that's definitely what she wanted.
why not open your own personal blog, and blog normally, then win her daily readers over to your blog.
i understand that celeste is not pretty to you all. but it seems like you ppl are envying her because she is famous than anyone of you here.
if you know you are better than her. prove it to everyone.
don't tell me you've never heard of, "haters make me famous"?
she don't even know who you all are, but down here you are like a bunch of losers, thinking about celeste chen day and night, trying to get all the attention through opening a hater blog.
this is the most stupid resort to put celeste down.
you made me feel like reading her blog everyday, because i wanna find out why ppl hate her so much.
when she's only a girl who always like to act cute, sexy when she has no figure and pretty when she got such small eyes, flat nose, thick lips and big-round face shape.
if you don't think she's pretty, you don't have to hate her. just ignore her and let her be.
soon she will lose all her readers cause everyone of us here knows that her blog is too boring.
think again, if you are celestechen, some ppl even bother to open a hater blog for you, would you be sad, or rather happy because out there, there's so many ppl who are so concern of your life?

matthew said...

I think this blog ought to be changed to a hateblog of ALL irritating young female bloggers in general, not just CC, otherwise some dense blog reader will just read this and hasten to protect CC's honour, or try to dismiss the blog with their increasingly flawed logic.

yours truly said...

Thank you for your nice, polite comment Winnie. We appreciate where you are coming from. We understand the concept of fame and infamy; however, we still wished to use this to voie the opinions which we were not allowed to voice on her own blog (and add some laughs along the way). But thanks for the feedback anyway.

Incidentally, I personally (I can't speak for the others) am not jealous of her at all, and (here I can speak for the rest) we all do have our own personal blogs which are respectably well-frequented by our friends.

ProfG

yours truly said...

matthew: as said, the use of Celeste is merely as the focus and figurehead for our critique of female bloggers, because she is such a... prominent figure. -PG

Anonymous said...

great post!

Anonymous said...

OMG!! LOVE THIS BLOG !! THE AUTHORS ARE SO COOL!! U HAVE THE SAME STANDARD AS XIAXUE OR EVEN BETTER! =D keep blogging!!

Anonymous said...

so jealous of cel. aiyo

Anonymous said...

aiyo. no la. we r not jealous. i swear! =) she has nothing that can make us jealous. peace!

Anonymous said...

I would like to applaud you on your articulate and intelligent entries. It is sad that most of that girl's (I'm sorry, but I can't even bring myself to say her name) supporters probably can't understand half of what you're saying and don't have the mental stamina to read your posts in their entirety, thus resulting in their persistence with stupid and contradictory remarks like "Aiya, you're just jealous. Stop bullying her, you ugly fuckers. Pls get a life, like me." But yeah, good job.

On a completely different topic, could you please maybe share with me, along with the rest of your readers who continually butcher the English language, how all of you managed to be so good at it? I teach English on the side and if I could, I'd invite you to talk to my Sec 1s.

Rock on, kids. Rock on.

Anonymous said...

we're in a cca that trains our english, and the main people who blog are like poetry writers...

Anonymous said...

Oh cool, we're read by a teacher x) Yeah, like thenumber4 said, we're generally language oriented students, with writing interests. Plus the aforementioned cca, lol.

Anonymous said...

Which CCA?

ps. I'm not really a teacher (as in, not affiliated with MOE whatsoever).

Anonymous said...

My short-term memory must be deteriorating.

And you're right.

Anonymous said...

Can I be a part of the literary genius that is this blog?

I have so much to say about all the Celeste Chen's of this world.

Please go to my blog to see my work, and get back to me if you're agreeable.

If you're not, its really okay, I'll cry for a bit, write an entire blog entry about how I don't care if you rejected me and think I write like a half-fucked chicken and make some sort of clever comment about how you secretly love to read my blog.

*sweet smile*

Cheers.