Sunday, July 29, 2007

A compilation for Celeste supporters

mmm. so many comments against this blog and defending Celeste.

This is a compilation for Celeste supporters. We urge Celeste supporters to read the following before repeating the exact same points, and wasting everyone else's time. We do understand that other than repeating your points you will hardly have anything else to say, but as this is our blog, we hope to eradicate stupidity and wish you all will comply.

"By creating this blog, you gave celeste more fame? and that's definitely what she wanted."
First, let me correct you. Celeste cannot have more fame, because she never had any fame to start with.
This has been answered long ago, so dear celeste supporters, stop repeating this and do not let us think that you have run out of points!
"let me pose this question to you: do you think all fame is equivalent to good fame? clearly you've mistook the definition. Judging by the ratio of people who claim they hate celeste to those who don't (note: poll), she's not entirely "popular".
and besides, for people to click on the link to visit/comment on this blog, majority of them would have had prior recognition of celeste anyway."

"why not open your own personal blog, and blog normally, then win her daily readers over to your blog."
Like G has said, we do have our own personal blogs. We are not intending to win daily readers over.

"but it seems like you ppl are envying her because she is famous than anyone of you here."
for the last time, we don't envy her.
envy - a feeling of discontent or covetousness with regard to another's advantages, success, possessions, etc.
discontent - not content; dissatisfied; discontented.
covetousness - eagerly desirous.
by this definitions, we can assure you we are not envious, because she has no advantages, success, or possessions at all, for us to be dissatisfied and eagerly desirious.

"but down here you are like a bunch of losers, thinking about celeste chen day and night, trying to get all the attention through opening a hater blog."
we're not trying to get all the attention. YOU are giving us the attention. neither do we think about celeste chen day and night for fear of brain damage.

"this is the most stupid resort to put celeste down."
the very fact that this had drawn much debate and opened new insights show that it is incredibly effective. if effectiveness equates with stupidity, than your vocabulary is very effective indeed.

"you made me feel like reading her blog everyday, because i wanna find out why ppl hate her so much."

there's so many people that dislike her, this isn't the only avenue for you to find out about her.

"got your blog from xiaxue's. HONESTLY, not in favour of anyone or anything. but a bit of irony? you said her blog sucks. so i was half expecting you to throw insults at her more previous blogposts. but you actually brought up her very recent blogposts to show that you are in fact, updated on her blog. so... you read it often? &in one part, you told her to get a life. well, she's actually blogging abt her own life &doing her own thing. &you're the ones who seem to have nth else better to do but this? im seriously not some "fan". but i'm just saying. like- if you wna get at someone. maybe something more constructive than the usual "you suck", "you're ugly" or "you're stupid". whoever you guys are, you definitely sound smarter than this.""
in response, as L has said:
"But you see, liking someone is not a prerequisite for wanting to read her blog. As illustrated here, we read Celeste because we (uhm secretly!) revel in her obnoxiousness, because we think she's amusing (not particularly interesting nor enlightening, but amusing all the same). And, as matthew so aptly put it, we have to be updated on the object of our hate! "

"err. hello? if you don't know her personally, don't judge her. she's quite different from who ya all think she is. don't judge a person by her appearance. your mama never teach you that uh! noob can? haha. and, just wanna say that you should spent your time studying. stop poking your noses into her life. its HER life, not yours. she can live it the way she wants. yeah. so get a life ya? (:"
for the umpteenth time, we're not judging her by what she does in reality, we're judging her by the way she acts on the internet. neither do we poke our noses into her life, it's just her attitude we can't take. and its OUR writing, not YOURS. we can write it the way we want.

"omg. if you hate celeste so much why still open a blog and blog about her. go her blog non stop. and its really funny.. you guys dont know her you cant judge her like this. you say what by her face.. omfg.. you stupid or what. how to judge by a face.. its so obvious you guys are just finding fought with her. and going to her blog everyday? even her new video also you straight upload. ohmy what losers.why not show us your faces :) why still hide behind the com and blog about people. coz you pple are not as daring as her. you pple are just jealous that she dares to do what she likes and you cant. if you dare to blog about her. why not dare to show your faces too. coward dogs. do you actually think celeste give a shiat? more like you are giving her more fame.. making her more like a star.. just think about it. hate her den ignore her.. why still come blog about her non stop and all. more like you are her fucking fan. dont say no.

1) you always visit her blog
2) watch her videos
3) check if anynew updated pics or videos are uploaded
4) open a blog and talk about her

you are wasting your time blogging about her. WHAT JOKES.

you pple dare. show us your faces lah. at least she dare to scold pple and show her faces _|_

losers man. really .. ohmy .
anyway this blog is also reported to the police station already :) and they are searching for the IP address coz this is internet bully btw. :D

GOODLUCK!"


"stop saying we cant judge her because we don't know her. we dun care about how she is in real life. we are talking about internet etiquette here. about arrogance, and nauseousness.

show us our faces? oh we were going to do that but the police is checking ip addresses right? so u will find us soon enough!

oh and on ip addresses. u do realise that THE WHOLE OF SINGAPORE'S INTERNET USES PROXIES, do you? its all dynamic IPs, if your "police" haven't noticed.

and in this blog, we don;t cook up fictional stuff. we comment on what she does, we give our opinion, but we don't slander! and we make sure we blog intelligently, and still keep to the law, and still be humourous while we can!

"hate her den ignore her". i see no logic in this! u ignore something when u are apathetic, not when u hate. this is the stupidest line of logic all celeste's fans have! as pointed out, proper bloggers like xiaxue (and we) accept criticisms.

btw, feel free to go http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/ This is the proper official law of Singapore."

J
Yet again, I've been pulled of homework to post here. (because, as you know, I'm the neutral one)

Recently, as you may or may not have noticed, the authors of this blog were accused and threatened by an anonymous person in a comment. Let us examine it as follows:

(and I quote)

omg. if you hate celeste so much why still open a blog and blog about her. go her blog non stop. and its really funny.. you guys dont know her you cant judge her like this. you say what by her face.. omfg.. you stupid or what. how to judge by a face.. its so obvious you guys are just finding fought with her. and going to her blog everyday? even her new video also you straight upload. ohmy what losers.why not show us your faces :) why still hide behind the com and blog about people. coz you pple are not as daring as her. you pple are just jealous that she dares to do what she likes and you cant. if you dare to blog about her. why not dare to show your faces too. coward dogs. do you actually think celeste give a shiat? more like you are giving her more fame.. making her more like a star.. just think about it. hate her den ignore her.. why still come blog about her non stop and all. more like you are her fucking fan. dont say no.

1) you always visit her blog
2) watch her videos
3) check if anynew updated pics or videos are uploaded
4) open a blog and talk about her

you are wasting your time blogging about her. WHAT JOKES.

you pple dare. show us your faces lah. at least she dare to scold pple and show her faces _|_

losers man. really .. ohmy .
anyway this blog is also reported to the police station already :) and they are searching for the IP address coz this is internet bully btw. :D

GOODLUCK!

July 29, 2007 1:17 PM


(endquote)

Well, first off, definitions for today's debate.

Internet Bullying *aka cyber bullying*: "bullying intends to cause emotional distress and has no legitimate purpose... threats, sexual remarks, pejorative labels (i.e., hate speech). They may attempt to assume the identity of a victim for the purpose of publishing material in their name that defames or ridicules them." (Wikipedia, 2007)

My three main points of contention are: 1) Is this blog a cyber-bullying blog? 2) Is this anonymous person a righteous critic? 3) Does his accusation/ threat stand? [Debaters out there, excuse the poor organisation, I'm new]

On to the first point of contention, whether this blog is in fact bullying Celeste.

We say this is not true, because we have not fulfilled the criteria of cyber bullying. On a most basic level, this blog does not fulfill the criteria for a cyber-bullying blog because it does have a purpose. As mentioned, " we're making a statement about the nature of many similar girls on the internet". As has been proven many times over, blogs can be used as a viable form of expression or critique, citing some examples such as Mr. Brown. This blog holds legitimate views which we to express, without going overboard and doing such drastic things as sending her hate mail, or other forms of 'bullying'.

Even if this blog falls into the catagory of cyber-bullying, we say that there is no viable way of ending such "cyber-bullying" by people of the world, unless governments/ law-enforcement agencies world-wide decide to shut down the internet in its entirety. There are simply too many of such blogs.

Furthermore, if a government can enforce such laws, other opinion/expression-driven bloggers like XiaXue would also have to be taken in. Even the 'anonymous' (and might I say, contradicting) person would have to be taken in, with his choice of commenting on our blog, which brings me to my second point.

Is this person a righteous and honest to goodness critic?

We say no, because a true critic would not sink to such vulgar means as this anonymous commentor has done. True, every person has the right to express to him/her-self, but as the government has constantly reminded us, this must be done responsibly, not through insults, ridicule and threats.

Even if this commentor does have a justified opinion, and the best interests of Celeste at heart, we say that through his vulgar means he has negated his right to expression, because he is doing exactly what he says we are doing. He has remained anonymous "not... show[ing] face", and insulted us collectively, with no evidence, judging us "...by face", and using defamatory and vulgar words like "jokes", "f***" and "coward dogs".

Furthermore, if what he says is true, and his point does stand, we say that he can by right be counter-sued or taken in by the police as well because he has (ironically) done everything, and some (threatening), that he himself has deemed 'internet bullying'. We think that this person does not infact hold a righteous view, or others' best interests at heart, but instead merely wishes to make a fool of himself in public by acting so dishonourably.

To my last point, and in conclusion, whether his threat/accusation stands

We say that it does not for two main reasons. First, as we have proven, because we have not fulfilled the criteria of 'internet bullying'. Second, we think it is unlikely that someone would have so carelessly chosen to do something so rash as to report us, because something like that has a variety of ill-effects, for both parties involved (especially because of his comment).

Even if it stands, we say that the chance of enforcement is reduced, because he (and countless others) has done exactly the same thing; if the police followed every threat, we would be getting robbed everyday because there wouldn't be any left to man the streets. We have also already proven that this blog holds legitimate views, and critiques the real and existing trend of so-called 'bimbo' bloggers.

Furthermore, if push comes to shove, we are prepared to face the consequences, because we know that expression of our opinions in the right way (albeit perhaps being a bit over-critical) is justified, and can be defending in a judicially-strong country like Singapore.

At the end of the day what have I proved to you? First, that this isn't an internet-bully blog in the first place. Next, that the anonymous commentor does not, in fact, have a righteous opinion to voice, and thus ought not hold weight with us. Last, that his threat cannot stand in the eyes of logic.

Thanks for reading (if you did, else you just scrolled to the bottom, hmm?)
ProfG

bunnies and papayas.

Random musing: Celeste treats Poopooji (the poor rabbit) like Xubin. She hauls it about the place, and makes it camwhore. See the comparability? Yeah.

(he looks pretty pissed here)




I'm posting because I feel extremely proud of Celeste today. She actually attempted (note: attempted) to reply to a negative comment! Seeing I've been banned from the comments board, I can't actually offer my commentary on her blog itself, so I shall do it here.

"one of the comments above said people who hate you are dumb. but i'm cooler and prettier than you and i still hate you. because you're fake. you're not really that cool and you're actually quite ugly. even by asian standards.

reply.
oh okay. show your pic.. let us see den why dont dare put your real name and url? your face must be damn fucked up. i think your parents face were like spastic .. if you say youre hotter den come and show me your pic lah. anyway i also never say im cool nor pretty. .. jealous fucker"


That brave soul! we were all so weary after a great deal of our comments faced obliteration. Although the above comment lacks a bit of logic, I must say the argument is still something worth contending. That that:
a) Celeste isn't really that pretty considering standards of beauty nowadays (especially with all that vulgarity of expression, ugh. Perhaps she doesn't know that ugly thoughts and speech create an ugly person).
b) Not everyone who dislikes her is an "ugly fucker".

Well, I give credit to Celeste for going insofar as to not deleting the comment, and replying to it (oh yeah, yeah we all know how extremely busy she is). However, Celeste appears to possess the rationality of a... a papaya (that's not saying much. I can't think of an appropriate fruit/inanimate object). Anonymity does not equate to ugliness! She's never given thought to the fact that perhaps people who dislike her don't want to give their true identities simply because she'll cut them off from her blog, make sure she jeers at them appropriately, or do god knows what. That's called being dense, Celeste.

And, eww, jealous?! I, for one, do not dislike her out of sheer jealousy (it's more like revulsion, you know?). And to "i also never say im cool nor pretty", CELESTE WAKE UP. LOOK AT THE EXPRESSION OF PURE SMUGNESS ON YOUR FACE; is that not evidence enough to show what an overbearing conceited witch you are?! And other things, of course, but I shan't state the obvious.

Also, Celeste mentioned that negative comments don't affect her at all. Well, if that were true, she wouldn't delete them, neither would she be so (illogically) defensive as shown in the above reply. Ah, Celeste, that's called being CONSCIOUS of them. Ever thought of why xiaxue doesn't delete hate comments and why she acknowledges their presence? That's indifference to what people say about you. Because it shows you don't really care if people hate you, you accept it, and you don't need to delete negative comments to show that you're a wonderful person. I think, Celeste, that if you really would like to be more endearing to people, you'd actually want to show that you're a real person with emotions, flaws, idiosyncrasies. Because now you seem really hard and artificial. So please, think about it.

But let's not veer off to reproachful bordering emo. Well, let's end off by congratulating Celeste!!! Celeste Chen accepting a slightly negative comment! This must be a BREAKTHROUGH in Celesteland, we should all get a day off or something :D

L.

ps im not flaming her! im praising her.

Friday, July 27, 2007

celeste is seriously very contradictory.

first: "I never said I was pretty"

but in the video:
"I LIKE MY EYES, hee hee"
"so cute right!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdrk5l_5DW4
(To set the scene, or lack thereof, I am a new persona of this Schizophrenic hate blog. I am ProfG, a random lit nerd.)

Friends, S'poreans, countrymen, lend me your ears;
I come to heckle Celeste, not to praise her.
The chiobu that men see stick in their minds;
The soul is oft forgotten with their homework:
So let it be with Celeste *NOT*. The noble L
Hath told you Celeste was ambitious:
If it were so, it was a flaunted fault;
And grievously hath Celeste flaunted it.
Here, under leave of L and the rest,—
For L is an honourable girl *HA*;
So are they all, all honorable girls *HAx2*,—
*Bwahaha. Jk, I love them all*
Come I to speak at Celeste's funeral.
She was a stranger, dumb and meaningless to me:
But L says she was ambitious;
And L is an honourable girl.
She hath brought many videos back from Youtube,
Whose clips did the bimbo blog fill:
Did this in Celeste seem ambitious? (YES)
When that the boy has sung, Celeste hath gushed:
*In center alignment withal!*
Ambition should be made of sterner stuff:
Yet L says she was ambitious;
And L is an honourable girl.
You all did see that on the Blogger
I thrice presented her a hateful tag,
Which she did thrice refuse: was this ambition? (No, it was bitchy)
Yet L says she was ambitious;
And, sure, she is an honourable girl.
I speak not to prove what L spoke,
But here I am to speak what I do know.
You all did love her once,—not without cause: (She acted cute)
What cause withholds you, then, to mourn for her?—
O judgment, thou art fled to bitchy blogs
And women have lost their reason!—Bear with me;
My brain is in the coffin there with Celeste,
And I must pause till it come back to me.
*When the bimboticism finally ends*

(There you go folks, I've lost my bitch blog virginity. Was it... good? *Use of dramatic pause* Tell me! Thanks. ProfG)

It came to my attention some ppl dont know what that is a satire of...

http://pd.sparknotes.com/shakespeare/juliuscaesar/section10.html


L: you're damn neutral.
G: i dont need to hate her to be pretty.

Tuesday, July 24, 2007

i've got a ticket to ride

Hello, this is L! I think I'll tackle some issues brought up on the comments board (heh let's make this blog INTERACTIVE zomgwtfbbq) before anything else. Anyway, some of you have put forth that we're being unfair, and if we don't like her don't read her blog. But you see, liking someone is not a prerequisite for wanting to read her blog. As illustrated here, we read Celeste because we (uhm secretly!) revel in her obnoxiousness, because we think she's amusing (not particularly interesting nor enlightening, but amusing all the same). And, as matthew so aptly put it, we have to be updated on the object of our hate!

And still, we simply dislike her. Why we blog about it? Because we're entitled to opinions as well as our expression of these. Why create a blog for it? Because we are sian and she deleted our comments (seemingly incisive at that point of time) on her blog. That's the extent of our disgust. We admit, we're no better than her. We're bitchy bloggers, we write because we can and we want to.

Sudden revelation: it's not just Celeste we hate. In truth, while we insult her immensely, simultaneously we're making a statement about the nature of many similar girls on the internet. We admit we don't know Celeste in real life, but merely from what we see from her behaviour and internet etiquette. That's what we don't like. There are many girls (you must concede, although Celeste is notably more famous) who are just as sleazy, just as crude, just as airheaded as she is. But we chose Celeste Chen anyway, for she's our emblem of bimbotic-ness!

This blog was called to be made, because if anything else, someone needs to show that there's more to viewing Celeste than "you are so chio". Anyway, she made a vague reply of sorts on her own blog, which I admit was more tasteful than per normal. However, the "I never said I was pretty" seems to be defied by the very arrogant way she flaunts herself.

Who are we, anyway?

We are J and L and JC ++, students like Celeste, and we've had our fair share of hate and love in this world. We could choose to remain ignorant to all this, but we've decided we want to have this tiny avenue of expression. Perhaps you'll agree with us! Perhaps you won't. But love us or leave us, we'll still exist.

omg emo post! I should be shot.

Look forward to the next episode of the wehateceleste saga: NICOLE CHENNNN!

Monday, July 23, 2007

See the poll at the top right? All who press yes will have a chance to win a soft copy of Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows.

J

hey hey you you

Celeste, ah Celeste, Celeste, Celeste. Perhaps you won't like our blog. Perhaps you've got other things on your mind like BinBin baby! Or perhaps, you're too busy to even take a look at it (watching Kim Possible, presumably). But whatever the case is, we've decided to speak up for all those poor oppressed people who can't voice out their views through your comment board, since you've decided to like, delete all the comments that neglect to mention "u very chio leh..."

Simply speaking Celeste, we don't like you. We think you're facetious, pompous, air-headed and showy.

No, we don't have a grudge against you. We don't hate you because your boyfriend is some campus superstar, neither do we hate you because of your "chio hair" (although, quite frankly, we hate it that you flaunt it around). You see, even if Celeste Chen was in the least bit pretty, she'd still be outrightly detestable. Although XiaXue may not be the prettiest of girls in Singapore, she doesn't pretend to be something she's not, and she's famous not because she flaunts things that she doesn't have, but things that she does. And in that way, she's far more likeable. So is Ice Angel (http://the-miracle-season.blogspot.com/2007/07/wahhhhh.html), who replied to XiaXue's post in a far more tasteful manner than Celeste did. Analogously speaking, she's the sheep that played the role of a... uhm, butterfly. Crudely put, but nevertheless you get my gist I hope.

Let's make a list then, and justify our causes. WHY WE HATE CELESTE CHEN:

1) her voice is annoying. It's a sort of mix between lian and bimbotic, bordering on brainless.



see.

2) Her blog sucks. Typically, even blogs of people I dislike are interesting, but hers isn't even mildly captivating! "me having an effing fake smile... throw rocks at my face pls...". Maybe I'm biased but I just don't like her writing. We don't care about her eating at jack's place! And before entering her blog, we can already presuppose half her entries are about Xu Bin. Like hell, okay you love him for the umpteenth time. We got the drift.

3) She's fricking zilian. The camwhoring part of it is still relatively digestible, but NO not the proclamations of: "I look fat in this pic" etc. So don't post it, bitch, it's not in your vested interest to do so.

4) The miniscule pictures that you have to click to enlarge. Obviously Celeste hasn't before heard of laziness.

5) The way she drags Xu Bin around, haha! But nevermind that, xiaxue said it all: AND STOP WITH ALL THE "HE IS MINE AND ONLY MINE" shit Celeste... After you are done with him, I don't think anyone wants him anymore

6) Her comments board! Not one person who isn't deluded or possessed can post on it. This meaning that any comment that portrays the least bit of negativity is deleted by Celeste. Of course, this excludes the fact that she absolutely loves people slobbering over her and calling her pretty. So it's a tough fight. Think there's any chance she'll allow this one?

"HEY YOU SO CHIO
but you're still a self-centered bitch
YOUR HAIR DAMN NICE!
but we think you should get a life!
SEXYY CELESTE WE LOVE YOU"

Hard to say, it's pretty bipolar. Then again, she mightn't recognise that.

7) The way she types "the" as "th". Okay maybe I'm being a tad pedantic, but oh well.

8) She randomly grabs boobs and films it! Like hello, eww, not so pleasant. Her friend was pissed too, heh. Of course, Celeste happily fails to comprehend any form of irritation. It's beneath her, right?

9) She's effing bitchy herself anyway. Read: "why are you hanging out with th freaking loser in school?" etc. Ahh pain, pain! Celeste rebuked someone!

10) SHE MASSACRED THE SCIENTIST BY COLDPLAY. Barbie Girl and Sexy Naughty Bitchy was still okay, but dancing cutesy to The Scientist is definitely not on. That was the straw that broke the camel's back. You do not murder lovely songs, you hear me bitch?!

Let's add a "we love you chiobu celeste" for good measure, just in case.

L.